Finding Your Flow- Blaze Energy

There's a genius in all of us, how do we unlock it?

This is such a critical question for ourselves AND our businesses Maren & Stephanie have dedicated 6 full podcasts to this question, and exploring answers.

There’s tons and tons of business advice out there, everyone telling you ‘do this, do that’. Yet it may not be right for you, your unique genius. How can you tell? Over 6 episodes Stephanie and Maren go through how to know who you are (your genius), how to build a top level team (adding complimentary geniuses) and which ‘guru’s advice’ is best for you to follow.

Ep 139 explores the role of profile tests in our lives and businesses - how best to use them to get real traction, and the profile test that Stephanie and Maren use as a tool in their own business and with clients. Ep 140, 141, 142 & 143 dive into the different Genius energies Dynamo, Blaze, Tempo and Steel. And Ep 144 brings it all together with the ‘Why’ element. Click here to see all currently published episodes in one place.

Today’s podcast focuses on Blaze energy, the people around us who are like the pollinators in nature. Is this you? Is it someone around you? You’ll want to know so you can tap into that genius and collaborate with the best people to make your business bloom!

• 01:06 Genius and Business
• 03:05 Is judgment keeping you from your Genius
• 05:51 Successful businesses have each energy
• 09:01 Blaze Energy Attributes
• 12:19 Are you following advice that’s right for you?
• 16:10 Creating a brilliant, effective team
• 18:52 The Relationship between Flow and Genius in business
• 23:25 Collaboration

LINKS

01:47 Barbara Sher book: Refuse to Choose

04:06 Blog Post: Which Personality Test is Best for Your Business?

04:35 Business Profiling Tool: Wealth Dynamics

25:48 Free Assessment

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Stephanie Allen: 0:01

You are a genius.

Maren Oslac: 0:03

But wait a second. How do you know that?

Stephanie Allen: 0:07

Everyone is a genius. We just often have been shamed for our gifts and strengths. And so we don't tend to develop our uniqueness in this world. Most of us don't know what that is.

Maren Oslac: 0:19

So we've invested the next four podcasts into exploring your genius. In a world where achievements and accolades motivate us to do more and be more, we're often left wondering, is this really it?

Stephanie Allen: 0:36

Deep inside, you know, there is more to life, you're ready to leave behind the old push your way through and claim the deeper life that's calling you.

Maren Oslac: 0:45

That's where we excel.

Stephanie Allen: 0:47

We're your hosts, Stephanie Allen,

Maren Oslac: 0:49

and Maren Oslac.

Stephanie Allen: 0:51

And this is the soulful leader podcast.

Maren Oslac: 0:54

Sit back and relax as we share the shortcuts we've uncovered to help you make shift happen. Welcome back to the soulful leader podcast. My name is Maren, and I'm here with Stephanie. And we've been having a really fascinating conversation over the last couple podcasts about genius and business. How do you, how does anyone own their genius and still run a business? Be in business? Work with other people?

Stephanie Allen: 1:35

We're talking of genius, like even what does that mean? What does a genius mean? Like I think of genius, I think of Einstein, ya know, or someone really great like a scientific mind who's a genius, or someone who's a prod, a prodigy of a music or, you know, some sort of great talents that they have. And when I think of that, I think, Oh, that's not me.

Maren Oslac: 1:58

Interesting. I think most of us think, Oh, that's not me. And yet, each of us has a genius in us. And I saw a great video today about it, it's oftentimes we think of a genius being that, oh, you're a genius at playing piano, like at one thing. And the woman on the video today was saying like, she is, you know, Barbara Sher wrote a book many years ago, and she talked about divers and scanners and scanners are people who like, they don't, they, they never find their fit in any one thing, they're going from thing to thing to thing to thing. And they still have a genius, oftentimes, their genius is putting things together, where others don't like when you go deeply into one thing, you oftentimes don't see the cross connections between the things. So the scanners, the people, so that's what I mean about genius is it doesn't have to look any one particular way. And everyone has a unique genius inside.

Stephanie Allen: 3:05

Because I think a lot of times we get judged, we get ridiculed for oh, you know, you're a scanner, and you're kind of like a jack knife, you're a jack of all trades, master of none, and you should find your thing. And then other people find their thing. And they're too cut off from the rest of the world or to, you know, you need to broaden your awareness and be open to all these other things. So it's like we get so projected onto from the outside world. And I think what I'm hearing you say, too, is that genius is inside. And there's a genius in all of us, and how do we unlock it? How do we nurture that internal world, so that we become resilient, not only resilient, but restorative of that genius, and also to be to be able to unfold it in the world in the way that it needs to be unfolded that, you know, not only serves us but also serves humanity.

Maren Oslac: 3:55

That's exactly it. And what I found is that oftentimes, when we think in these terms, it's not directly related to business. I just wrote a blog post about, like, the difference between some of the profiling tests because oftentimes, profiling tests, we will we tend to love to take the profiling tests. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because Stephanie and I use a particular profiling test, and we've been talking about it over the last couple podcasts. And somebody asked me, well, what's the difference between that and like Human Design, or Enneagram? And what I find is that the tool that we're using, which is Wealth Dynamics, the reason that I like it so much is - for its business bent. It is really focused on okay, I think a lot of the profiling tests will help us to find to go more deeply into what is it that we do well, I think some of them are more focused on okay then you need to fix. Right, there's something to then be fixed about your personality. And what I like about the wealth dynamics test is that there's nothing to be fixed. It's really about finding your genius. And then once you know your genius, and even if you don't know, quote, unquote, know, your genius, it's okay. What if I did have a genius? And what might that be? And who around me could have other geniuses that could support me?

Stephanie Allen: 5:30

Yeah, I think there's a shift in the way of like, when, when I've taken other profiling tests, I really love them, because it gets to help me understand myself more so that I know, I know how to unfold myself or, um, you know, unveil myself. And then I can also help to recognize other people and their gifts and strengths, too. What I like about this profile test, the wealth dynamics one, is that it allows us to see where the pieces of the puzzles fit. And not only fit, but how we can evolve them and scale them up. Because it's that whole dynamics of how we work. And I love the analogy of sports teams, it's like, you know, a lot of times, we kind of hang out with people who are on our same team, you know, meaning, you know, if you're on a hockey team, and you're a forward and you know, me, you're hanging out with the whole team, but there's, the other forwards are kind of just like you, versus the goaltender has a very different mindset, then the defense or the centers or the forwards, right. It's like, it's just, it's so different. And how we relate this in business is that we tend to open a business and we attract people just like us. And so everyone is just like us. And there's a lot of, you know, basically pucks getting passed off and getting scored. So, yes, right.

Maren Oslac: 6:50

Yeah. We do want that kind of like I was just talking about with divers and scanners, we do want the people who are the scanners, we want somebody who thinks differently from the way that we do. And I have personally experienced that. I think we've talked about that on the podcast before. But I know today, we wanted to go more deeply into the blaze energy, because last week, we talked about the Dynamo energy. And so this week, we wanted to talk more about the blaze energy, and I love Blaze, because my partner Stephanie is Blaze energy. So Stephanie, can you tell us a little bit about how does a blaze energy person see the world? How do you think what what are the types of things that you've been shamed for in the past? Because that oftentimes will tell us where our gifts and strengths are. Somebody tells us don't work on that. Don't don't pay attention to that.

Stephanie Allen: 7:52

Yeah, because we tend, we tend to be told, you know, work on the areas that you're not good at. Right? So you know, the areas that I'm not good at would be details. Like really like the fine details, you know, you think of my math class, and like, you know, carry overs and the decimal points and all those little tiny details, like, it's a big deal. It's a big, when you miss a decimal point, it's a big deal. And not that I don't value it, not that I don't appreciate, because I totally do. But when I have to sit down and do something that is not necessarily my strength and my skill, nor my interest, it takes a lot of hard work for me to do something like that. And I hear that a lot of times with younger people when they're in school, and they're like, why do I need to learn this? I don't like this course. You know, I'm not interested. And it makes it really hard to learn and really hard to connect to it. If there's no meaning. And there's also no gift strength or skill set or you know, a reason why why do I need to learn this stuff. So when I look at myself, it's like, Where I've Been Shamed is, is you know, I don't like to sit still, and I love to talk. And I love people and I like social and I like gatherings. I like networking. So when you think of blaze, blaze is like the summertime so what do we do most in the summertime? We have parties. We have celebrations there's weddings, graduations. There's all this variety.

Maren Oslac: 9:19

Yeah, color brightness, like the bees are out pollinating just fine. That's the way I think of blaze energy is like this flower, visit that flower. I want that one. Let's go here. Let's do this.

Stephanie Allen: 9:32

Lots of variety, lots of variety and lots of light. So there's lots of energy. So we tend to be more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD, even though that ADHD may or may not be true, but it could actually be our genius in the way that it isn't about going deeply into one thing, but that one could pollinate a lot of information and there's a lot of variety. A lot of joy. So one of the main things they love having fun, you know and celebrating, if you think of Blaze energy Blaze energy is like the cheerleaders. Like they're celebrating everybody, they're so excited for someone else's success. They're interested in how they can support you or grow your idea or, but they're not always the first one with the idea. Meaning when we just when we talked about the Dynamo energy, when they are asking the question, 'what' in the dynamo, what are we doing? What wants to happen? Blaze energy is more saying, well, who could benefit from this? Who also has all the information that's already doing this that we can learn from? So it's asking the who question or who do I need to become to be able to, to do this or do that or become this? So it's asking you who question. And so like, they're the party, or the party gathers, and they're the ones that develop conversations and interests.

Maren Oslac: 11:01

So I know like, one of the things you've told us in the past is that when you were in school, you're always told to sit down, be quiet. Stop talking to everyone.

Stephanie Allen: 11:12

I was too interested going around and finding out how everybody's doing and what they're creating. So I could get ideas. You know, that I think that's one of the things too is a blaze energy, not that we don't have ideas, but we have people ideas.

Maren Oslac: 11:24

You cross pollinate other people's ideas. And that's what bees do, right? They cross pollinate, you're going from this flower to that flower to that flower, meeting people. And you're cross pollinating things, and you're, you're mixing fields and energies and people and oh, you need to know this person, and you need. You're great networkers. And you Okay, so you don't sit down, sit still very well, that's okay.

Stephanie Allen: 11:49

I have done my best work in coffee shops, or at parties. I wil literally build, fill my practice by going to a party or a coffee shop, and even doing work in a coffee shop. Next thing, you know, I'm signing people up for this, that or the other thing, or I'm making those connections I'm pollinating. I'm like, Oh, we you should you know, I was hearing this conversation over you're like, have you heard of this? Or you might need to meet this person here. Let me pass on their card. Like it's kind of, I get so much joy out of that.

Maren Oslac: 12:19

So here's what I want to point out about this is when we are being taught in business of how to do something. We may be being taught by somebody who's not in our energy. So here's a great example. Stephanie just said, She fills her business by going to a coffee shop. So if she was not aware of the fact that there are all these other energies, and that is what worked for her, and you came to her as a business guru, and she was going to teach you how to fill your business. Like I said, if she wasn't aware of the fact that there are other ways to do it should be teaching you this one way. And for at least three quarters of the people out there, that won't work.

Stephanie Allen: 13:10

Well exactly if, if it's not something like I often say I'm a shy extrovert. So it's not like I I have to push myself actually to be extroverted. But once it's like it's like a wheel in motion, like going down the hill. I'm like, Oh, now I've got momentum. I'm like, oh, now I'm having a great time. It's hard for me to stop. And I love it. And I come home and I'm like, wow, I got so much done.

Maren Oslac: 13:36

But here the reason it won't work for everybody is because not everybody is Blaze energy. So for me, I'm Dynamo energy, I would not be able to. I could replicate exactly the things the Stephanie does. And it wouldn't work for me because that's not where I'm wired. And yet we try to fit ourselves into this guru and that guru and but this person said I need to do and are they saying the right thing for not only who you are but where you are right now in your business? There's all these layers, right?

Stephanie Allen: 14:13

Absolutely. And Blaze energies you think about fire are so Dynamo energy is wood. And Blaze energies fire. So someone who is a dynamo energy is asking what what are we doing what they're coming up with creative ideas. They're actually putting wood on the fire. And the fire is illuminating. It's burning hotter and brighter, and it's attracting more people to the bonfire. Which is exactly what it does. And what I find sometimes is that as a blaze energy, because I don't always come up with an original idea. I get inspired by somebody else's idea. And then I'm already I'm already now attracting who could be benefited from that. And what I find is that sometimes people will will project onto me thinking, well, you're just you're just you're not you're not settled and you're not focused, you know, you need to sit down, you need to focus you need to make this happen. And that can be true sometimes, that that can be very true. And what I find, when actually focus is literally spreading the flame. You think of how fire spreads, it jumps, it moves, it's unpredictable, it's all over the place. It's hard to contain, it's nice to contain, but then it burns more intensely and upward, which is great, too. But if you think of that fire energy, that's what you're working with. And if you have an idea, you definitely want someone who can illuminate it. And this is what often happens is that we will stay in just one area that is our strength, and we don't invite the other elements in, it needs all five elements.

Maren Oslac: 15:48

Well, and it the way that you just talked about that I think that people can start to see and if they can't,

Stephanie Allen: 15:52

Thank goodness I'm going to make it really obvious. Wouldn't it be great to

Maren Oslac: 15:57

right, and there may be, there may be some have a team of each and we haven't gotten to the two more types of energies plus the bigger spirit energy, which is why. We haven't gotten to those yet. But having a team of, say, for example, a dynamo person who's got the idea, and then a blaze person who then puts fire under that idea and gets it and illuminates it and, and attracts people. And then the tempo person, which we'll talk about next week is going to ground that idea and make it very solid and inbodied into the world. And then the steel person who we'll talk about the week after is is the person who's going to systematize it so that it all is working like clockwork. And you can see that like none of them is going to actually think the way that any of the other ones do. So conflict. And we've talked about the conflict is actually where all of the greatness comes from, right. That's where all of our growth and transformation comes from, conflict. So there may be some conflict. And that is what makes just an absolutely brilliant team.

Stephanie Allen: 17:08

So what happens a lot of times with Dynamo teams because it can be largely dynamo, creating so if you think of a C word, so dynamos create blazes communicate, you know tempo energy, which is your earth energy, grounding it, they're actually going to care and literally follow through. So they're caring and being in service. And then the steel energy, which is more inward more collecting the data they're collecting, but they're also controlling. So they're literally organizing it and Systemising it and controlling it and counting it, so to speak. So if you think of those see words. And you know, I've seen this a lot of times when you're talking about teams, you have you have maybe you have a blaze team but, and now everybody in the blaze teams out there talking and socializing. But nothing's getting done.

Maren Oslac: 17:59

My team was, everybody was dynamo, and everybody had all kinds of ideas, but nobody was actually doing anything.

Stephanie Allen: 18:04

Well, it's like they have all kinds of ideas, but they're lacking the communication. Yeah, that's, it's that's what I said, you know, if you've got the, you've got the creativity, but if you don't have the communication, how is that going to happen. And then if you don't have the follow through the caring and the nurturing of it, which is tempo, energy, or the being able to count it and collect it, then you don't have to steel energy, then it doesn't, you know, you don't have a team, right, don't have a team.

Maren Oslac: 18:33

And I think that, for most solopreneurs, or even small businesses, we can really relate to that. Because there's a place where we get to a certain point, and then it just feels like it falls apart or we get stuck. And so one of the thing that we look at,

Stephanie Allen: 18:48

And that's when we all give up, that's when we get frustrated.

Maren Oslac: 18:52

Or we try to do something outside of our own flow. So at the beginning of the conversation, you asked me, What is genius. And when we're in our genius, we're in flow. What is flow? Flow is when things, it's not that it's easy, and yet it is right. So, for example, with Blaze energy with Stephanie, one of the things that she found was that in her best flow, she would study by interviewing people,

Stephanie Allen: 19:24

by conversations,

Maren Oslac: 19:25

by conversations, for Stephanie to study by reading a book or having to, like do it by herself. It it's like,what would you say?

Stephanie Allen: 19:36

Hitting your head with pain.

Maren Oslac: 19:38

It's pain. So she's out of flow. And she can make herself do it. It takes twice as long, four times as long. She won't get as good a result. So when she's in her genius, she's in flow, and she's doing things that work well for her, right.

Stephanie Allen: 19:54

Right. And so when, well, and I want to, I want to say something about flow. So here's an idea. What we're saying is flow is literally think of a river literally being able to move around obstacles in your life. And so how do you know when you're not in flow? It's probably easier, is that you are either in rebellion, I don't want to, you can't make me; or resignation where you go, what's the sense this is too hard I give up. So if you feel those kind of things, you can say to yourself, Okay, I'm not in flow, which means you're not dropped into your genius. And you haven't set up your team or your systems to be able to support where you are weak. You're trying to do it yourself.

Maren Oslac: 20:34

And that's the key, is like, where something, if you're hitting a blockage in your business, where you keep hitting that same blockage, and you're feeling frustrated, and you either go into a resignation, or you're, you're like, oh, I don't, I don't want to do that the whole fu thing, right. And oftentimes, we're, we get to that point where we're like, we're just supposed to push through, right? There's actually a better way. And it's finding your flow. And then building a team around that of people to support you in that in their flow. And when you can get that you'll stop being stuck in that place.

Stephanie Allen: 21:17

And so often, I'll hear solopreneurs, like just new business startups, saying, I can't afford to have a team, like, Are you crazy, I have to do everything. Like we've worked with that Maren. And we've worked with small businesses and small groups and, and the like, but I can't afford to hire somebody. And we're not saying to hire someone. It's amazing, like, so here's an example of myself and Maren. You know, I'll come up with, like some people that will say, Hey, I've got some ideas. And I'm like, Oh, I have I have way that we can serve them. I'll say this to Maren and Maren literally can create a picture of it. And like a document, or she can completely, I'm like, Oh my gosh, that's, that's it. That's exactly what I'm trying to say. If I sat down and tried to create a visual poster document, whatever it was, it's like so painful. It's going to take me hours, versus me just going out and talking to people and literally drafting having somebody else draft it up with me. It's much, much easier. And I think we forget that it's like, what I'm trying to make my point is, is that when we say we don't, we can't afford somebody else. Somebody else does their genius so naturally, they actually would do it for free. It's so easy for them. And it's so fitting, the feedback system, it's actually giving them lifeforce, it's giving them energy.

Maren Oslac: 22:38

And they, even if they don't do it for free, they would probably love to if they're not your genius, right? So say for example, for me and Stephanie, if Stephanie said to me, Hey, Maren, I would love to go and talk to people, if you would, you know, draw this for me, or create my idea for me, because I'm not necessarily the greatest drawer, and I do create, well. I would be like, Oh, my God, sign me up, right. And I haven't paid her anything. She hasn't paid me it was like, we could find that trade with most people outside of our genius. So it doesn't have to be something of like, I have to hire somebody, whether it's a you know, an actual bringing somebody on or doing like a Fiverr thing you can find people to trade with.

Stephanie Allen: 23:25

So it's about collaboration, it's about having a narrative, an inner narrative that what you have is your gift and strength is actually a value and of worth, and somebody else has the your, your weakness, somebody else it's their genius. And when you can collaborate together and transcend the shame, that you should have already mastered everything. That's what shame stands for, for me, then you can transcend that and you go, wow, we can actually help each other. And I have a perfect example of that. I'm doing some business with a partner of mine, who is wildly creative has deeply studied. And she felt that for me to take registration and talk to people at the front door and sign them up, and also follow up with them at the end. And be a support to her was literally demeaning to me. And I said to her, I said no, actually, it's demeaning not to ask me, because I love that.

Maren Oslac: 24:24

And that's a great, like, our perception is only from our, like, for me as a dynamo. That would be, it would be out of my flow. So I would feel, it would feel a little bit crunchy. It would be like okay, yeah, I can do it. I can make myself do it. Yep. Yep. And you know, and there are times when I do because it's important, and then instead realize that somebody else would be like, Oh, God, can I please?

Stephanie Allen: 24:53

Right? Right. So we have to change that narrative that asking somebody else for help, that actually they're really good at it and they actually quite enjoy it, is not a detriment, it's actually a benefit to both individuals. So raising up to collaboration rather than competition or trying to just do it all on your own. That's, that's, that's really challenging. And you don't have to, there are ways to do it. And it helps when you know, your genius, because then that way you can go, Oh, these are the areas that I not very interested in, in developing skill with. And they don't necessarily give me energy. So who are the people, here's my, here's my Blaze question, right, who are the people that are interested in those areas? And where can I find them, which is going to be our tempo question.

Maren Oslac: 25:45

So if you're interested in doing your free assessment, you can visit our website, the soulful leader, podcast.com or T S L P, which is stands for the soulful leader project TSLP dot life. And there will be a link for a free assessment to know if you're Dynamo Blaze Tempo or Steel energy. So if you're interested in that, please check that out. Also, if you'd like to see other podcasts when I say see, we're also on YouTube, and we're making sure that these four podcasts are available on our website, as videos as well. The other thing that we're doing is we've got a couple of free downloads that are specifically around the different energies. So make sure you check out the show notes or go to our website. And you can get all of that information. It's completely free. And please give us some feedback. You can find us on Facebook and on LinkedIn under the soulful leaders. And we'll be visiting Tempo energy next week. So please come back and join us.

Stephanie Allen: 27:00

And that wraps up another episode of the soulful leader podcast with your hosts, Stephanie Allen

Maren Oslac: 27:06

and Maren Oslac. Thank you for listening. If you'd like to dive deeper, head over to our website at the soulful leader podcast.com.

Stephanie Allen: 27:17

Until next time,